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Nov 2 2009, 4:40 pm

It Doesn't Mean Squat

Along with tarot cards and goat entrails, a lot of people believe they can divine hidden meaning from the results of off-year elections, like the ones in Virginia, New York and New Jersey on Tuesday. I'm skeptical. For one thing, nobody bothers to wait for the polls to close anymore--the "meaning" of the results has been hammered out in advance. A GOP sweep will be taken as proof that conservatives are resurgent and President Obama's agenda is in trouble, while Democratic wins in New York and New Jersey--Virginia is hopeless--will demonstrate that conservatives have gone off the deep end. (Any other combination will mean a dull night for cable television.)

A year after Obama's landslide victory and the expanded Democratic margins that brought in the House and Senate, the political landscape has changed, but not nearly to the degree that the "pre-" post-race analysis would have you believe. It's changed marginally--and only marginally--in the direction that almost anyone could have predicted a year ago: As campaign promises give way to actual policy tradeoffs, as the political world stubbornly fails to morph into something resembling those embarrassing old Coke commercials where everybody holds hands and sings, Democrats are falling back to earth a bit and an impatient, naive sliver of the electorate is growing jaded. But that's it.

More important that Tuesday's election tallies, whatever they may be, are two directional trends in the electorate that will probably have much broader effects. One year after Obama's victory, anger at George W. Bush is ebbing, and right-wing fury at pretty much everything is flowing. This suggests to me that both Democrats and Republicans are going to have a tougher time going forward, Democrats because they'll have a harder time motivating their base and Republicans because they have effectively lost control of theirs.

What does that mean? I think it means that Democrats will have a hard time in 2010 holding onto some of the seats they won in 2006 and 2008, when disgust with Bush was at its apex. Their margin in the House will probably shrink. This will further encourage and strengthen the right wing of the Republican Party, whose primary problem will be...the Republican primary. It may not look that way to the tea-bagging, Palin-loving crowd in ascendance, and I, for one, look forward to a truly spectacular season of Stephen Colbert if it happens. But these kinds of movements are high-intensity, low-ceilinged affairs whose appeal lies chiefly within their own political sphere. The lesson of NY-23, if one is to be drawn (and regardless of whether Doug Hoffman wins or loses), is that the Republican right wing is now the dominant wing of the party. If, when GOP presidential aspirants position themselves in earnest for the party primary in 2011, the tenor of the candidates resembles that of Hoffman and his major supporters, I'd bet on Obama to win in a rout.

The pointless thing about prognostications, even ones as vague as these, is that they can't factor in any of the changes that could occur in the interim. And there are bound to be plenty of them: major health-care reform seems likely; a weak economy and high unemployment seem possible; and the introduction of a compelling Republican agenda is at least feasible. So let's take a deep breath and remember to view Tuesday night's elections for what they really are: A landslide (Virginia), a circus (New York), and a Lions-vs.-Rams battle of bottom-dwellers between two of New Jersey's least popular politicians.

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Comments (16)

Why does Palin get lumped in with the tea parties?

Pineview1997 (Replying to: Endless Ike)

Because she comes off as ignorant and angry. Like the tea-baggers.

behaha (Replying to: Endless Ike)

Because her strongest supporters come from those who support those protests, maybe?

Ah, yes! Just the right mix of realism and cynicism, which is an absolute necessity these days. It is nice to see a journalist take a step back from the political bubble and take to it with a pin. We're in real trouble as a nation, and one year of Obama trying to obtain campaign promises, more understanding among Democrats, or more veracity among Republicans (God help us) is not going to be the spoon full of sugar that helps the medicine go down (http://honeyloveco.blogspot.com/)

jennis psycho

When Republicans win it's meaningless anger.

When Democrats win it's about hope and the inevitable future trend.

And remember, above all else, tomorrow's results reflect in no way on Obama, even though he and his surrogates have been campaigning vigorously in Virginia, New Jersey, and New York, and the last-minute mailing fliers all figure Obama more prominently than the candidate in them, and he's cut several campaign radio/TV ads in the races.

Whew! Remember, if the Republicans win it's all about right-wing craziness and has nothing--got that, nothing--to do with Obama!

Mr. Green misses a very important point and one that surprises me as it is so glaringly obvious. If off-year elections are don't mean squat - why all the space dedicated to talking about them? Why, if we see a trifecta tonight for the R's, will the Democrats be out in force during the week and on the weekend talking down the results? The reason - the public does not buy it. They think it does mean something, and perception is reality no matter how much Mr. Green wishes it were not so.

And Republicans have not lost control of their base - their base realizes they have not been the base for the past 8+ years. With the sheer amount of buyers remorse out there for Obama, as independents can't get away from his fast enough, look for independents to hold their noses in 2010 and 2012. They know what is at stake - the future of this country - and now that the cats out the bag and Obama's agenda is quite clear to all but the most blinded amongst us, look for a serious shelacking of the Democrats in 2010 and 2012. The stakes are way too high.

colby (Replying to: GJMerits)

Nah, just 'cause the media and the pundit class spends a lot of time talking about something, doesn't mean the thing is important. Balloon Boy and the Gosselins ain't important, nor were Bo, Obama's jeans, or Michelle's shorts. But they still got a lot of attention.

"...Obama's landslide victory.."? Really? 53% to 46% is hardly a landslide. Embellishment of the facts is irresponsible reporting. Didn't you learn anything in Journalism 101?

Affenhauer (Replying to: Fleish)

My guess would be 'no'. This whole post strikes me as nothing more than pre-emptive spin control...

Kylopod (Replying to: Fleish)

I'm sure he was referring to the electoral college, where Obama got about 68%. While this is not an uncommon result in U.S. elections, it's pretty standard to refer to an electoral landslide simply as a "landslide." Reagan's 1980 victory is routinely called a landslide even though the popular-vote margin (51%-41%) wouldn't fit the definition.

The lesson of NY-23, if one is to be drawn (and regardless of whether Doug Hoffman wins or loses), is that the Republican right wing is now the dominant wing of the party. If, when GOP presidential aspirants position themselves in earnest for the party primary in 2011, the tenor of the candidates resembles that of Hoffman and his major supporters, I'd bet on Obama to win in a rout.

Indeed, for exactly the same reasons that Reagan's primary campaign against Ford and his subsequent nomination meant that Jimmy Carter won re-election in a rout.

Pineview1997 (Replying to: John Thacker)

The 1976 Election you're talking about was actually pretty close. Carter beat Ford 50.1%-48% and in the EC by 297-240. What a different map back then.

The GOP carried Vermont, California, and Illinois. The Dems carried the whole Confederacy save Virginia. Feels bizaare these days.

Neither Hoffman nor any other national level Republican has even half of Reagan's talent. Moreover, Reagan came at a time when the country was swinging right- had it not been for Watergate, the Republicans would've easily held the WH in '76. While I wouldn't say the country is swinging left right now, it's not swinging right, either.

...and of course, Reagan raised taxes, expanded government, granted amnesty, and negotiated with leaders of rival nations. Were he around right now, he'd be a target of the Teabagging Wing.

SeekingRationallThought

A good article which cites some truths. However, it, as most articles written by essentially left-wing writers, misses the big story. BOTH parties are being dominated by their extremes. The author sees that the Republican Party is dominated by its right wing, but doesn't see that the Democrat Party is currently dominated by its left wing. I suspect this is because the writer is part of that left wing. To be fair, he probably doesn't view himself that way, but feels that he is either moderate or "mainstream." Unfortunately, this just shows that he is incapable of objectively viewing the political environment and is therefore a less than a competent journalist. Not a bad person, but someone so sure of their own position, that they cannot objectively view what is happening in the country. Or simply so out of touch with the country that they cannot see what is happening. Therefore, he sees the Republican Right as a problem, but doesn't see the Democrat Left as problematic. This shows the real problem with journalism today. Voters can't rely on journalist. Not because of bias, which is unavoidable, but by incompetence - the inability to put aside personal bias and view the world as it is, not as how the journalist wants it to be.

Shame on you, Green, for using homophobic slurs such as "tea-bagging".

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